The two began dating, much to the chagrin of the girl's parents, who felt Jerrywas too old for their daughter. Mawson described their encounter at a bar in Seattle toPeople magazine:I thought, Hes good looking. They recently sold eight acres of the property to Noah Herron, owner of the Urban Vines Winery & Brewery, who intends to break the acreage up and sell off three lots, while also building a home for his family. She could never have imagined what they would find. The informant had spotted Brian once again, and this time he got the mans license plate. And its the driving force behind this show. Her Husband Accidentally Died, Then She Found The Bodies In HisTrunk, 37 Creepy Stories Of Serial Killers That Have Stuck With People Over TheYears, I Always Thought Something Was Off About My Basement, But I Had No Idea How Terrifying The TruthWas, 37 Gruesome Facts I Learned About Ted Bundy From The Stranger BesideMe, 41 Of The Creepiest Unsolved Mysteries Of AllTime, Im Ready To Tell The Truth About My Interviews With Graham Welsh, The Man Found Innocent After 20 Years On DeathRow. He worked for many years as an undiscovered killer, but as life changed after he bought the property known as Fox Hollow Farm, this guy, this killer, well no one could ever know what he was truly up to. Herbs double life held a lot of secrets. Once again, it didnt take long. In 2015, the Graves family agreed to allow the haunted attraction company to bring five annual trips to the house, at around $90 per person. The next several years werent much better for Herb either. I feel like Im aging a lot faster than I ever have before. In addition to the 11 bodies found on his property, Herb was also suspected in at least nine other killings along the I70 corridor between Indiana and Ohio. Chapter One In 1988, Herb borrowed seed money from his mother to start his first Sav-A-Lot thrift store. Payne Lindsey: The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the authors and participants and do not necessarily represent those of iHeart media, Stuff Media or its employees. In 2009, Fox Hollow Farm was bought by a couple with the perhaps grimly ironic last name Graves. The year was 1991 Herb. All the while she knew that someone was buried in the woods behind the house. In 1978, 27 bodies turned up in Gacy's crawl space, which led to the killer's arrest. The investigators felt certain that a search of a ditch on the Baumeisters property would yield additional grizzly results, and they were right. My thoughts, I cant seem to turn everything off and be able to just get some rest. Though Paula has never made an official statement, her daughter Kerri Rawson came forward in 2014 and contended the family never knew Dennis was responsible for the murders. This podcast started out as a deep dive into some of the cases that interested me. The bones appear to represent one of the most gruesome acts of serial murder that Indiana has ever seen. Doctor Psycho Podcast - A Forensic Psychology Podcast [00:09:30] He said his name was Brian Smart, and he was a landscaper from Ohio. Erich, Herbs son, was about to make a gruesome discovery in the woods. Somewhere with a lot of property and privacy [00:21:30] where Herb could conduct a different kind of business. In this episode, Michael Drane, UPC's resident psychotherapist dives into the Psychology of Erotophonophilia & Auto-Erotic Asphixiation. They. I guess well never know the answer. But heres how all of this came to be. The police later approached Julie at the Sav-A-Lot store, where she also refused to let them search her property. Julie investigated and found additional bones. Oxygen Insider is your all-access pass to never-before-seen content, free digital evidence kits, and much more! When she found credit card statements detailing charges from an hourly-rate motel, Linda accused Robert of cheating on her. The Indianapolis Police ran a check on the license plate number, and the results pointed back to the cars owner. The raccoons must have dragged it out of the garage. That was all right then, Julie thought. Nothing criminal, [00:01:00] but just like him, there are parts of my life Id like to keep separate including my sleep issues and my vivid, realistic nightmares. If you dont mind its bloody history and possible ghostly occupants, Fox Hollow Farm would certainly seem like a steal at just under a million dollars. News, Julie Chen Moonves revealed why Kim Kardashian and Tom Brady could be a force to be reckoned with if they both were to However, since there was really no cause for alarm, [00:04:30] the two parted ways. Theres Herb standing on the edge of his property [00:26:30] wearing a suit and tie and looking exactly how you would imagine a successful small business owner might look in the 1990s. Every summer, Julie would take their son Erich and their two daughters, Marne and Emily, to a lake house owned by Herbs mother. Six months after his marriage to Julie, Herbs father had him committed to a psychiatric hospital, where he spent nearly two months. In the fall of 1994, Julie Baumeisters son Erichthe middle of three children she shared with her husband Herb Baumeisterbrought her a human skull. When she asked where hed found it, he said that he got it in the woods of their 18-acre estate, Fox Hollow Farm, a few miles outside Indianapolis. In fact, the dark truth was only beginning to be unearthed in his hometown of Westfield, Indiana just one day before his death, and people in the small town were already beginning to talk. There are 10+ professionals named "Julie Baumeister", who use LinkedIn to exchange information, ideas, and opportunities. They had to get to Julie. [00:08:30] The only known connection was the missing mens ties to the gay community. On further inspection, the pair found a pile of bones - if reassembled it would make a fully formed human skeleton. 10 had disappeared in the previous two years beginning in the spring of 1993. Didnt even move it. He was in turn described as a hotheaded boaster always trying to impress people, a perfectionist given to unprovoked rages, and a gregarious family man who loved old cars. He left a three-page note that talked of marriage and money woes, but not a word about the murdered men. [00:02:00] Normally I keep everything to myself. Baumeister is accused of luring LGBTQ men from Indianapolis gay bars to his Westfield home where the authorities said he killed them. And soon after when the authorities were knocking on her door and asking to search the property, she refused because Herb told her another lie. WebHerb Baumeister interview with WISH-TV Joe Melillo 251 subscribers Subscribe 103K views 6 years ago Raccoon hit and a well dressed and personable Herb Baumeister But what about women who married serial killers before or during their crimes? And a special thanks to Joe Melillo [00:29:00] and WISH TV. Goodlet had gone missing in July of 1994. She asked Erich to take her to where he had found it. Five annual trips to the property sell out months in advance every time at a price of $90 a ticket. He noticed that the interior was crowded [00:10:30] with dust covered furniture and boxes as they made their way through the house. The family mans estate was littered with human remains. Earning the couple a small fortune in the first year alone. They found the remains of seven men on the Baumeister property. Tony Harris (a pseudonym used to protect privacy) said he met a tall stranger who called himself Brian in an Indianapolis gay bar. Right from the beginning, Julie has claimed that the Herb Baumeister, we know the serial killer is not the same Herb Baumeister that she was married to. You see, these dreams are so realistic that the following morning Ill spend several hours or even the entire day trying to figure out if last nights nightmare was real. 2020 Tenderfoot TV and iheartradio. But the cracks were beginning to show and Herbs secret life couldnt stay secret for long. Many believedDarciewasprivy to the murders since some took place while she was at home. We know plenty about the case, but its also clear [00:20:30] that some of the dirtiest details went to the grave along with Herb Baumeister. That evening, Julie confronted Herb about the bones, but he simply told her not to worry. As an adult, his reputation was one of a devoted father to three kids and husband to the woman he met and courted in college. Happiness as we knew it is never going to return.. Scott Benjamin: The poor thing deserved a better fate than that. The question is this, is Herb really that upset about the treatment of a dead raccoon, or is he using this as an opportunity to try to blend in? That was before she learned he had been cruising gay bars while she and the children went away for summer vacation. 2010 The Thought & Expression Company, Inc. Indianapolis Police Department, Seek the Truth Paranormal, people thought Julie Baumeister was a silly, stupid, or gullible woman, one man was shaken enough by a violent sexual encounter with a wealthy man named Brian Smart, Herb Baumeister could be responsible for an additional nine murders of men along I-70 in the 1980s, The couple who bought the home have seen dismembered spirits. This guided journal will help you moveon. According to Julie, Herb had made countless trips to Ohio during those years, supposedly on store business. I dont want to sleep during the middle of the day. This led authorities to conclude that Herb Baumeister had also been the so-called I-70 Strangler, bringing his total body count up to around 20 and making him one of the most prolific serial killers in Indiana history. According to the Chillicothe Gazette, weird things started happening about a year after the Graves family moved in. How much did Julie know and when? According to the Associated Press, Hoff said Gacy started bringing home a lot of pictures of naked men" just before they separated, and one time, she found the wallets of several teenage men in his car. For the New Year, Say No to Negativity - WSJ Related: 33 Books About the Worlds Most Notorious Serial Killers. Still, that year in 1994 Julie thought Herb was acting more strange than usual lately. By the end of the second search, this area alone had produced the remains of seven additional [00:18:30] victims. Baumeister, she told investigators, told her the skull had been a medical specimen that belonged to his late father, who was an anesthesiologist, according to media reports. Julie believed him. But I wouldnt necessarily call it entertaining anymore or fun or relaxing in any way. The blog Real Evidence of the Paranormal records a veritable litany of accounts supposedly drawn from the Graves family and their friends. I also want to get Early Bird Books newsletter featuring book deals, recommendations, and giveaways. WebJulie Baumeister 6/16/22 Julie Baumeister 6/16/22. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. He kept reaching out to me." Gay men were disappearing in the area, and they had usually last been seen in the citys gay bars and nightclubs. Julie said she felt drawn to Herb because of his good looks and interest in cars, and how they were both Young Republicans. When Julie asked Herb Baumeister, her husband of 23 years, about the bones, he told her they were from his anesthesiologist fathers medical school skeleton. Julie herself must have worried their marriage wasnt normal for a long time. Harris claimed Briantook him to a large estate, and the twoengaged in autoerotic asphyxiation. The police came to me and said, We are investigating your husband in relation to homosexual homicide, Julie would later recall. She Thought Something Was Off About Her Husband. WebOP claimed that Julie Baumeister never allowed her kids friends into the house and one time the OP went inside to use the bathroom unannounced and the house was a hoarders paradise full of old furniture, clothes, decor and, creepily, multiple mannequins were posed among the clutter throughout the house. Was it really the pressures of a failed marriage and business, or was there something more sinister to the story? He would push the mower and I would trim the bushes. Yet, if the police are correct and Herb Baumeister is also the I-70 Strangler, he had a sinister and deadly secret life that he was hiding from his family, stretching back over a decade. Some of my dads favorites that hed allow me to take off his shelf for a few weeks at a time. SERIAL KILLERS WHO ARE MARRIED - SERIALKILLERCALENDAR.COM Thepolice arrested Robinsonin 2000 after two women reported him for assault and robbery. Julie Baumeister She simply believed he was engaging in extramarital affairs. Things are mentally fragmented. The only witnesses to his brutal and unusual crimes were the mannequins and they arent talking. Thats what shes always claimed, and thats what we have to believe until we hear otherwise. All of this is really just [00:16:00] the tip of the iceberg. Shortly after the police searched Fox Hollow Farm, Julie and her three children moved back to the house in Indianapolis where she and Herb had lived shortly after their marriage. 5 Women Who Unknowingly Married Serial Killers - Oxygen By 1965, Herb had graduated high school and was accepted into Indiana University. His murder spree began in 1982 and lasted almost 20 years before authorities apprehended himin 2001. Like many predators, its possible Herb tried to protect himself by grooming his family to bring concerns to him instead of an outsider or the police. He had shot himself and left a three-page suicide note, but he did not mention the murders he was believed to have committed. From iHeartRadio and TenderfootTV, Monster Presents: Insomniac. Garry Donna, a former co-worker, was later quoted as saying that people often asked, Whats the deal with this guy?, I just said, Well, Herbs just Herb, Donna replied. In total, Fox Hollow Farm concealed the bodies of 11 men, yet only eight of them were ever positively identified. She needed to know that her husband was living a secretive double life and he was now suspected of multiple murders. The couple who bought the home have seen dismembered spirits in their home and in their woods. Youll undoubtedly hear about Herb Baumeisters several murders, or the boys he cultivated then lured home. Not only did he pee on his teachers desk and discuss drinking urine, but when he peed on the letter to the governor of Indiana, well, that answered the question about who had peed on Herbs [00:07:00] managers desk just a month prior. While in their early 20s, John Robinson and Nancy Jo Lynchmet in Chicago, IL, in December 1963. He claimed it was a medical research skeleton that belonged to his now deceased father who was an anesthesiologist. When Herb went away by himself for a vacation in June 1996, police showed up andasked Julie'spermission to search the property, which she granted. WebGreat River Greening. Herb stayed home during the week to keep an eye on the family business, visiting his wife and children on the weekends. If youre looking for modern examples those are easy to find too. Police found the remains of at least 11 men at Fox Hollow Farm, eight of which were eventually identified. They just decided to take some stuff out of old files, dust it off and say we solved this, Ted Fleischaker, the publisher of a newspaper serving the Indianapolis gay community, told the Associated Press. The informant felt that Smarts deviant behavior in the pool that evening might explain what happened to his missing friend Roger Goodlet. Baumeister The truth was the tourist had been living out of his car for several days at this point. People who knew Baumeister as a child said he was always an oddball, uneasy with people and known for behavior that was just plain weird. In the years since the Baumeisters left the estate, dozens of people have reported that the farm is haunted, with some even claiming that the spirit of Herb Baumeister himself still walks there. Radersaid he liedto his wife, claiming it was a project he was working on about the BTK Killer for one of his college classes.